{"id":47,"date":"2008-11-27T10:46:22","date_gmt":"2008-11-27T09:46:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/?p=47"},"modified":"2009-09-28T09:46:58","modified_gmt":"2009-09-28T08:46:58","slug":"its-bubbleicious","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/?p=47","title":{"rendered":"it’s bubbleicious"},"content":{"rendered":"

Howard Lederer’s post<\/a> on full-tilt yesterday talks about S&G bubble play.<\/p>\n

You’re second in chips with 3,000, the blinds are 100\/200, and you’re dealt Ad-7d in the big blind. The chip leader is on the button and raises to 600; the small blind folds and you call the extra 400. The flop comes Q-8-3 with two diamonds, which is a pretty attractive flop for your hand. You check, and your opponent does exactly what you didn’t want him to do: put you all in for about double the size of the pot. You’re getting slightly better than 3-to-2 pot odds on a call for your tournament life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Is it just me or is the correct thing to do with the nut draw there never ever ever ever to check??? Move all-in yourself and put the decision on your opponent.<\/p>\n

Admittedly we don’t have a lot of information about the relative chip-stacks; if your 3000 is a decent proportion of the chips on the table and the fourth-place guy is short then clearly you can pick a better spot, but if everyone has 2000 or more then I don’t see the value in folding there.<\/p>\n

The only way your opponent can call is if he has AQ, AA, KK or QQ, which is possible given the preflop raise but four-handed a button-raise could have a much wider range of hands than that; otherwise I don’t see how he can possibly call and – even if he does – you’re about 45% (?) to the nuts and pairing your ace may still be good.<\/p>\n

Of course the real<\/i> mistake Howard hasn’t talked about is much earlier on in the hand: if you’re planning on checking that flop you should have folded to the 400 bet in the first place – what on earth were you hoping for – AA7? Did you really expect the chip leader not to lead out and bet at any<\/i> flop on which you’d checked?<\/p>\n

Thoughts?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Howard Lederer’s post on full-tilt yesterday talks about S&G bubble play. You’re second in chips with 3,000, the blinds are 100\/200, and you’re dealt Ad-7d in the big blind. The chip leader is on the button and raises to 600; the small blind folds and you call the extra 400. The flop comes Q-8-3 with […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[59],"class_list":["post-47","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-poker","tag-full-tilt"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=47"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":188,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47\/revisions\/188"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=47"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=47"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weeklywhinge.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=47"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}